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As long as the internet has existed, it’s been proven that we can’t have nice things. For everything that somebody creates, it appears there will always be those trying to detract from it. As is the case with the upcoming Black Panther film, which has seen it’s score on popular movie site IMDb, drastically altered.

Despite the film yet to be screened outside of premieres and press screenings, it already has a relatively low score of 6.7, with over 2000 ‘reviewers’ giving it a 1 out of 10. Pretty impressive since it’s unlikely that many people have actually seen the film.

Although saying that, it’s also unlikely that the nearly 5000 people who voted gave it a perfect 10, but that’s likely just in response to the campaign against the film which has been floating around the web the past few weeks.

You can check out a screengrab of the scoring below:

Black Panther IMDb Rating

It definitely seems as though there are people out there who are looking to ruin the scores of this film, although it’s hard to know whether it’s down to bitter DC fans who are annoyed with Marvel’s success – or something slightly more.

It was reported last week that a campaign to ruin the film’s Rotten Tomatoes audience score was being attempted by a group on Facebook, with the website itself also commenting on the issue.

Either way, it’s apparent that this film will have have it’s detractors when it hits general release next week. It’s a real shame, as it sounds as though the film is actually well made and a worthy addition to the franchise. It’s also a shame when you think of all the hard work that went into creating it.

We will hopefully be seeing more accurate scores on these websites when Black Panther hits theaters on February 16th.

What do you think? Are you looking forward to this film? Do you believe in reviews and ratings? Let us know below!

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Troll 2

1990 film by Claudio Fragasso

For the 2020 animated film, see Trolls World Tour.

Troll 2 is a 1990 horror film directed by Claudio Fragasso[1] (under the pseudonym Drake Floyd) and starring Michael Stephenson, George Hardy, Margo Prey, Connie McFarland, Deborah Reed, and Jason Wright. Although produced under the title Goblins,[2] the American distributors marketed it as a sequel to the 1986 horror film Troll;[3] however, the two films have no connection, and this movie features no trolls. The plot concerns a family pursued by vegetarian goblins who seek to mutate them into plants so that they can eat them.

Production was rife with difficulties, largely due to the language barrier between the Italian-speaking crew and English-speaking cast, and producer Joe D'Amato's approach to low-budget film making. The resulting film is considered by some as one of the worst movies ever made. In subsequent years, the film gained a cult following and garnered a large fanbase. Though generally viewed as a poorly made horror, the filmmakers stated that it was "always intended to be a comic film".[2] In 2009, Stephenson, the child star of the film, directed a critically acclaimed documentary about its production and subsequent popularity, humorously titled Best Worst Movie.[4]

Plot[edit]

Michael Waits has always dreamed of being a farmer, and arranges a home exchange vacation in which he and his family will move into a house in the rural farming community of Nilbog ("goblin" spelled backwards) for a month. The night before the family is scheduled to leave, Michael's son Joshua is contacted by the ghost of his dead grandfather, Seth, warning him that vegetarian goblins want to mutate him and his family into plants so that they can eat them. Seth tells Joshua that goblins can mutate people into plants by feeding them poisoned food or drink.

Meanwhile, Joshua's sister, Holly, receives a visit from her boyfriend Elliot Cooper. Holly accuses Elliot of being a homosexual since he seems to prefer spending time with his friends. Elliot promises to show his devotion by accompanying the family on vacation.

The next morning, Elliot fails to arrive and the family leaves without him; they encounter him en route to Nilbog, riding in an RV with his friends Arnold, Drew, and Brent. Outside of Nilbog, Seth appears as a hitchhiker, who warns Joshua that Nilbog is the kingdom of the goblins, and that if his family eats anything while they are there, they will be mutated into plants. The family disbelieves Joshua's warnings and continue on to Nilbog, where they meet their strange and aloof exchange family, the Presents. There, Joshua sets about destroying all of the food the family finds or acquires, such as by urinating over a feast prepared for them, with the help of Seth's ghost.

Arnold goes for a walk outside of Nilbog and encounters a girl being chased by goblins. When Arnold approaches them and insults them, they respond by throwing a spear into his chest. They flee to a chapel in the woods, where they encounter the goblins' queen, Druid Witch Creedence Leonore Gielgud, who uses the "Stonehenge Magic Stone" to give the goblins power. Creedence tricks them into drinking a magic potion that dissolves the girl into vegetable matter, a horrifying scene witnessed by Arnold that prompts him to scream helplessly only to be mutated into a tree.

The following morning, Michael and Joshua venture into town to buy some food, as there is none in their holiday home. When in town, they find the general store closed, and Michael falls asleep on a bench. Joshua enters the local Church and eavesdrops on a goblin church sermon, which bewails the "evils" of eating meat. The parishioners capture him after seeing his skateboard roll into the church and attempt to force feed him poisonous ice cream; Michael walks in on the scene and becomes suspicious, taking Joshua home.

Later, Drew goes to the town because there are no food or drinks in the RV. The sheriff Gene Freak takes him in his car and gives him a green hamburger. When he arrives in the town, Drew goes to the store and the owner offers him poisonous Nilbog milk. Feeling dizzy, he goes to a chapel and finds Arnold, who has mutated into a tree. Drew drags him out, but Creedence appears. She knocks him out and chainsaws Arnold into pieces. Drew is then killed off-screen.

At the house, the family discover that the townspeople have prepared them a surprise party to apologize for the events at the church. Joshua attempts to make contact with Seth, only for Creedence to appear in goblin form through the mirror, and attacks Joshua. Seth's ghost appears and chops her hand off with an axe. Creedence returns to her chapel, where she mutates herself into a beautiful woman in revealing clothes; she then travels to Elliot's RV, where she seduces Brent and drowns him in popcorn.

During the party, Seth and Joshua try to cause a distraction using a Molotov cocktail, however the Priest captures them, takes the cocktail, and recites a spell that banishes Seth's soul to Hell. However, before he vanishes, Seth summons a bolt of lightning from the sky, which ignites the cocktail and kills the Priest in a fiery explosion. When Michael extinguishes his burning corpse, his true Goblin form is revealed, and the villagers turn on the Waits, revealing themselves all as Goblins. The Waits and Elliot then retreat to the house, where the villagers surround them and hold them hostage.

Joshua, Elliot, Holly, Michael and Diana hold a séance to communicate with Seth, who returns from the dead and tells them that he can retain a physical form for exactly ten minutes before he has to return to the afterlife. Seth gives Joshua a paper bag containing a "secret weapon" to use against the goblins. The goblins break into the house and transport Joshua to Creedence's chapel, where Joshua opens the bag, revealing a "double-decker Bologna sandwich". He eats the sandwich, making his body poisonous to the goblins; he then touches the Stonehenge Stone, along with his family and Elliot, which destroys Creedence and all of the Goblins present.

The family returns home, where Joshua's mother is seen eating food from the refrigerator. The food, unknown to the family, has been poisoned by the family of goblins which is very likely to be the Presents family, who took over their home during their exchange in the country. Joshua walks in on a group of goblins eating his mother's green, bloated torso off of the kitchen counter and offering him a bite. Joshua screams in horror.

Cast[edit]

  • Michael Stephenson as Joshua Waits
  • George Hardy as Michael Waits
  • Margo Prey as Diana Waits
  • Connie McFarland as Holly Waits
  • Robert Ormsby as Grandpa Seth
  • Deborah Reed as Creedence Leonore Gielgud
  • Jason Wright as Elliot Cooper
  • Darren Ewing as Arnold
  • Jason Steadman as Drew
  • David McConnell as Brent
  • Gary Carlston as Sheriff Gene Freak
  • Mike Hamill as Bells
  • Don Packard as Sandy Mahar
  • Christina Reynolds as Cindy
  • Glenn Gerner as Peter
  • Michelle Abrams as Wood Tales Girl
  • Lance C. Williams as Mr. Presents
  • Elli Case as Mrs. Presents
  • Gavin Reed as Presents Son
  • Melissa Bridge as Presents Daughter
  • Patrick Gibbs as Goblin (uncredited)
  • Paul Gibbs as Goblin (uncredited)
  • Hermann Weiskopf as Man (uncredited)

Production[edit]

The script—originally titled Goblins[5]—began as a way for director Claudio Fragasso's wife, Rosella Drudi, to express her frustration with several of her friends becoming vegetarians, which she claimed "pissed [her] off".[6] The film was produced by Eduard Sarlui and Joe D'Amato, an Italian exploitation film director notorious for his stated view that the profitability of films was more important than their entertainment value. D'Amato worked under the pseudonym "David Hills". In keeping with D'Amato's production philosophy, many components of the film were created for little to no money, such as the costumes that were designed by D'Amato's longtime friend and frequent collaborator Laura Gemser.[7]

The film was shot on location in Morgan and Porterville, Utah in the summer of 1989; a large "M" erected in the mountains outlying Morgan is visible in some shots. The production crew was made up almost entirely of non-English-speaking Italians brought to America by Fragasso; the only fluent English speaker on set was Gemser. Fragasso and his crew largely relied on a broken pidgin English to communicate with the cast, who recalled not being able to understand much of what went on.[5]

The cast had few experienced actors, and was primarily assembled from residents of nearby towns who responded to an open casting call, hoping to win roles as extras. George Hardy was a dentist with no acting experience who showed up for fun, only to be given one of the film's largest speaking roles. Don Packard, who played the store owner, was actually a patient at a nearby mental hospital, and was cast for—⁠and subsequently filmed⁠—his role while on a day trip. He later recalled that he had smoked an enormous amount of marijuana prior to filming, had no idea what was happening around him, and that his disturbed "performance" in the film was not acting.[6]

Drudi and Fragasso have stated that their intentions have been misunderstood, as the strongly criticized aspects of the movie are intentionally comic and exaggerated, such as Creedence's theatrical acting or the preacher's monologue on eating meat.[8]

As neither Fragasso nor Drudi spoke fluent English, the shooting script was written in the same broken dialect in which they both spoke; the cast would later recall that the script was only given to them scene-by-scene, and that they had difficulty understanding their dialogue as written. Some of the cast members offered to correct their lines to sound more grammatically and syntactically correct, but said that Fragasso demanded they deliver their lines verbatim.[6] Despite the majority of the cast attesting to the same story, Fragasso has vehemently denied their version of events, and once reacted angrily to a panel discussion being conducted by the cast, calling the actors "dogs" (Italian for "bad actors"[9]) and accusing them of lying about their experiences.[6]

Soundtrack[edit]

The film's soundtrack was composed by Carlo Maria Cordio and was played entirely on Roland D-50 and Korg M1synthesizers, consisting of a few brief themes repeated over and over, including a sped-up M1 demo track.[citation needed] In 2017, the complete score was released on CD, LP and cassette by Lunaris Records.[citation needed]

1."Like an Emerald Green"2:21
2."Goblins Are Coming"1:16
3."Wrapped in Dreams"1:26
4."Through the Mirror"2:41
5."Green Nightmare"2:51
6."Black Sense of the Fear"2:21
7."Desperate Sprint in the Forest"2:06
8."The Witch of Popcorn"3:56
9."Na-Na Song"4:06
10."Shadow in the House"2:06
11."A Green Pottage"1:06
12."They Are Not Farmers"3:06
13."Wail of Terror"1:11
14."Can I Help You"1:11
15."Eaten Like Green Sauce"2:21
16."Green Jam Sandwich"1:01
17."Tennessee Roads"3:51
18."The Welcome Cake of Prudence"2:56
19."Grandpa Fairytales"3:16
20."Carousel of Vegetables"1:11
21."Do You Want Some, Joshua"2:26
22."Don't Eat Green Food"2:46
23."Tomorrow Nightmare"3:01
24."The Horror of It All"3:36
25."Goblin's World"3:16

Reception[edit]

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Troll 2 is widely considered to be of exceptionally poor quality, and has come to be regarded by the public as one of the worst films ever made. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 5% based on 21 reviews, with a weighted average rating of 2.44 out of 10. The critical consensus simply reads "Oh my God" in reference to the film's most famous (or infamous) scene.[10] The acting and dialogue have become notorious for their camp value. The scene in which Darren Ewing's character states that he will be eaten next has become an Internet meme,[11] often appearing in videos alongside the "Garbage Day" meme from Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2. In terms of audience participation, Troll 2 has been compared to the film The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and the two films have been screened together.[12]

In 2007, a major Troll 2 event took place in Morgan called "Nilbog Invasion".[13]

Home media[edit]

In 2003, the film was released on DVD by MGM in a Dual Layer version, packaged with the first 1986 Troll film, under the title Troll/Troll².[14] MGM rereleased Troll 2 on DVD and Blu-ray in the United States on October 5, 2010 in honor of the 20th anniversary of the film's release.[15]Scream Factory released a double feature Blu-ray of Troll and Troll 2 on November 17, 2015. The first 5,000 copies included a DVD of Best Worst Movie, the documentary about the production and legacy of Troll 2.[16]

Documentary[edit]

Main article: Best Worst Movie

The child star of Troll 2, Michael Stephenson, directed Best Worst Movie, a documentary about the film and its cult status.[17] The film debuted on March 14, 2009, at the Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar in Austin, Texas, as part of the South by Southwest film festival. Several cast members from Troll 2 attended the premiere. The screening was followed by a showing of Troll 2.[18] The documentary also screened at major film festivals across the world including the AFI Fest and Sheffield Doc/Fest. A screening at the Tower Theater in Salt Lake City included appearances from much of the cast.[19][20]

The film won Best Feature Documentary (as voted by the official jury), as well as the Audience Choice for Best Documentary Feature at the 11th annual Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in September 2009. It was released in spring 2010[22] and distributed by Area 23 A.[23]

ABC's Nightline ran a segment on Troll 2 and Best Worst Movie in May 2010, including interviews with Hardy and Stephenson.[24]

Sequel[edit]

After Troll 2 was released on home video, some regional distributors continued to build on the success of the previous Troll, distributing two other films as sequels: The Crawlers (also known as Troll 3 or Contamination .7) and Quest for the Mighty Sword. The latter film, featuring a hobgoblin using the same goblin suit from Troll 2, was also known as Troll 3 (in Germany, it was released as Troll – Das Schwert der Macht and Troll – Teil 3).

At the Nilbog Invasion, Fragasso and writer Drudi announced plans for a sequel to Troll 2, and the audience was polled for their opinion on what the film should be called. The winning title was Troll 2: Part 2. Fragasso later asked Stephenson to appear in the sequel.[25] However, in 2009, Fragasso said he was no longer interested in directing the film.[12]

The official sequel to Troll 2 was finally released for rent on Amazon Prime Video and DVD/Blu-ray on October 6, 2020, entitled Under ConTroll. This film sees George Hardy reprise his role as Michael Waits and stars Eva Habermann as Vanessa Majer, a woman who is possessed by a troll.[26][27] The film was directed by Eric Dean Hordes, who co-wrote the screenplay with Alexander König and Simon Hauschild.

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ abcFragasso was credited under the pseudonym "Drago Floyd".

References[edit]

  1. ^J.C. Maçek III (2012-06-15). "The Zombification Family Tree: Legacy of the Living Dead". PopMatters.
  2. ^ ab"Wendy Mitchell on Troll 2". The Guardian.
  3. ^"10 Strange Things You'd Better Not Eat or Drink!". Bloody-disgusting.com. 2010-03-24. Retrieved 2011-02-23.
  4. ^Harley, David (2009-12-24). "Best & Worst of 2009: David Harley Picks His Top 10!". Bloody-disgusting.com. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
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  6. ^ abcd"Content warning". Breakfastintheruins.blogspot.com. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  7. ^O'Brien, Jon (2020-10-11). "Why Troll 2 really is the best worst movie ever made". SYFY WIRE. Retrieved 2020-12-23.
  8. ^http://www.bizzarrocinema.it/interviste/altre-interviste/professione-sceneggiatore-intervista-esclusiva-a-rossella-drudi/
  9. ^cane, Garzanti linguistica
  10. ^"Troll 2 – Rotten Tomatoes". Rotten Tomatoes. Retrieved 2014-09-18.
  11. ^"Troll 2". Know Your Meme. Retrieved August 30, 2018.
  12. ^ ab"La verità su Troll 2. By Claudio Fragasso in persona". I400calci.com. 2009-09-14. Retrieved 2015-06-18.
  13. ^[2]Archived April 11, 2008, at the Wayback Machine
  14. ^"Troll/Troll 2 DVD". Blu-ray.com. 2003-08-26. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  15. ^"Troll 2 Blu-ray in October". blu-ray.com. Retrieved 2014-08-25.
  16. ^"Troll / Troll 2 [with Best Worst Movie on DVD]". Shout! Factory. Archived from the original on 2015-11-23. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  17. ^Harley, David (2009-12-24). "Best & Worst of 2009: David Harley Picks His Top 10!". Bloody-disgusting.com. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  18. ^"Theatrical One Sheet for 'Best Worst Movie'". Bloody-disgusting.com. 2010-04-06. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  19. ^"Troll 2 Documentary Trailer". horror-movies.ca. Archived from the original on 2014-08-26. Retrieved 2014-08-25.
  20. ^"Troll 2 Documentary Teaser – BEST WORST MOVIE". 2007-08-21. Retrieved 2015-10-25 – via YouTube.
  21. ^"'Best Worst Movie' Documentary Gets Spring Release". Bloody-disgusting.com. 2010-03-01. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  22. ^Barton, Steve (2010-03-01). "Best Worst Movie Lands Distro". Dread Central. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  23. ^"Is 'Troll 2' the 'Best Worst Movie' Ever? | Video – ABC News". abcnews.go.com. Retrieved 2014-08-25.
  24. ^"Interview with Michael Stephenson (Troll 2, Best Worst Movie)". Action Flick Chick. 2010-06-28. Retrieved 2015-10-25.
  25. ^Under ConTroll. Amazon Video. https://www.amazon.com/Under-ConTROLL-Eva-Habermann/dp/B08FJCVNMK/ Accessed 25/10/2020
  26. ^Under ConTroll. IMDB. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3107252/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 Accessed 25/10/2020

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IMDb Kills its Message Boards Because of Trolls

By Dave Parrack

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IMDb is shutting down its popular message boards. This is down to a combination of waning interest and the tenacity of trolls.

IMDb is shutting down its popular message boards and the ability for users to privately message each other. This is down to a combination of waning interest and the tenacity of trolls. Those who use the IMDb message boards are understandably annoyed at their demise.

IMDb is an incredible resource for anyone who watches movies, featuring a repository of information about pretty much every movie ever made. If you want to know who starred in La La Land, or who provided the voices in Finding Dory, IMDb has the answer.

The main IMDb pages detail movie plots, catalog cast lists, and aggregate review scores. However, IMDb has also provided an exciting and eclectic mix of message boards for people to discuss movies and more. Sadly, the IMDb message boards are shutting down.

This Is the End

The IMDb message boards will cease to be on February 20, 2017. This, according to IMDb, gives users enough time to archive their content and exchange contact information. In announcing the closure, IMDb explained:

"After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide." "The decision to retire a long-standing feature was made only after careful consideration and was based on data and traffic."

While IMDb doesn't make specific reference to trolls, it's clearly inferred that negativity was at least partly to blame. IMDb faced a choice between leaving its message boards festering with hate, or employing moderators to keep the peace. Instead it chose to eradicate the problem altogether.

A Troll in Central Park

IMDb has ready-made replacements in the form of its social media accounts. People who used to post on the message boards can simply decamp to Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Pinterest, YouTube, and/or Tumblr. But don't be surprised if the internet trolls eventually show up there too.

Are you a fan of IMDb? Did you ever use the IMDb message boards? Did you notice the quality of conversation declining recently? Do you support IMDb killing its message boards? Or has the site handed victory to the trolls? Please let us know in the comments below!

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‘Ghostbusters’ Trolls are Now Trying to Sink its IMDb Rating

If this is your first time on the Internet since August 2014, first of all, congratulations, what’s mental self-care like? And secondly, you might be interested to hear that a great many grown men are very angry that they’re remaking a comedy from the ‘80s with some women. No, seriously, it’s somehow a big fucking deal! They started whining from the moment it was announced, took to forum boards and comment sections to voice their displeasure, produced temper tantrum video non-reviews, and made its trailer the most “disliked” video in YouTube history. (Even Donald Trump weighed in. Of course Donald Trump weighed in!)

When observers dared wonder if there might be a wee bit of sexism in what appeared to be an organized campaign to sink that trailer’s YouTube ratings, its critics insisted that no, no, it was just a bad trailer. Well, now Ghostbusters is seeing quite the poor showing among IMDb users, with (as of this writing) an average 3.7/10 rating among over 6500 votes – a remarkable thumbs-down from viewers, considering it doesn’t screen for general audiences until Thursday. Why, it’s almost as though these folks have made up their mind about this movie without seeing it!

This, um, mathematical oddity was first flagged by ScreenCrush, which notes that the film has received less than one thousand votes rating Ghostbusters from 10 to 2, but over two thousand handing it the “1” designation. They also discovered – and you may want to sit down for this – that the vast majority of those “1” ratings were given by users who described themselves as men between 18 and 44. I know, I know, I can’t believe it either.

Meanwhile, among film critics, Ghostbusters is currently doing just fine. Then again, they’ve seen the movie.

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IMDb Has Had Enough Of Trolls And Is Killing Off Forums And Messaging

Posted on by Bill Watters

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It's been a long run, but after 16 years, IMDb is closing up shop on it's forums and private messaging features. In a statement made on the site the company said

After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide.

New postings to the boards were disabled on the 3rd, but the existing content can still be accessed until February 20th to allow users to archive messages.

The site, used regularly by most fans of film and television (notably every time we forget the name of that one gal in that movie with the shark we pull out the IMDb mobile app), has seen a rapidly diminishing level of useful discourse in the forums. As with most open message boards on the internet, they'd long become a hotbed for harassment, racism, sexism, doxxing, and general poo-flinging.

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Even a simple subject perusal for topics include such discourse worthy topics as:

Vegetarians are scumbags.
Spike Lee's films were only ever loved by black SJWs.
Should girls now take initiative and ask guys out?
Janagolightly is a lonely depressed attention whore
RIP NAEEMAK THE FULL RETARD ANUS TROLL (1977-2017)

Overall use of the forums has been dropping over the last many years, especially as a ratio of useful to off-topic content, so the decision isn't a huge surprise. IMDb's statement does also note that much of the traffic had already moved to social networks. In the end, rather than trying to clean up and moderate the forums, which was never part of their core business model is a good choice. Now they can spend more resources focusing on expanding their directory and IMDbPro offerings.

 

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Sours: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7539608/fullcredits

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The message boards on IMDb long served as a home for film geeks. For popular movies — even ones that were decades old, like 1977’s Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope — it wasn’t uncommon for a half-dozen or more threads to be active at once, with users swapping theories and debating possible plot holes or filming errors. The boards, a de facto comment section for films, TV shows, actors, directors, producers, and Unnamed Man With Mole at the Bars, was where songs from trailers were tracked down in the pre-Shazam era, where a Q&A from a Teen Mom cameraman gone rogue was preserved and a Brittany Murphy conspiracy theory was invented. It was, enthused a New York Times commenter in 2008, a great place for “messing with Harry Potter fans … by purposely getting key facts wrong and then arguing as if they are right.”

They could also be much more than that: Many of the site’s avid users had been posting for years; IMDb’s database actually predates the internet, and its online message boards first came about in the ancient-web days of 2001. Deep in threads of subgenre arcana, users met friends and spouses and sometimes people who sounded like they might be trivia items on their own IMDb pages: “I met the guy I lost my virginity to thanks to IMDb’s message board almost a decade ago,” wrote one user recently.

On Monday, that message board closed. “After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb’s message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide,” read a statement published by IMDb founder and CEO Col Needham. All past threads — 16 years’ worth of posts — were erased.

When Needham announced the impending closure at the start of February, users despaired: “The boards are now gone and that’s all that really mattered,” wrote one. “All those conversations are deleted. It’s like the world just got nuked and we’re all dead anyway.” A petition to keep the message boards going garnered more than 11,000 signatures and 5,000 comments.

IMDb, which is owned by Amazon, is far from the first site to scrap its comment section. But there’s something sobering about the fact that even a movie database has been consumed by the seemingly unstoppable spread of troll culture.

From the outset, IMDb positioned itself as a user-focused community, prominently displaying aggregate user ratings for movies and TV shows. Increasingly, though, the site’s commitment to democratic principles left it susceptible to users’ baser tendencies. In a July analysis of last year’s Ghostbusters reboot — whose female-led cast made it a lightning rod in online discussions — FiveThirtyEight’s Walt Hickey found that an overwhelmingly male voting pool was suppressing the results: Male voters, who outnumbered Ghostbusters’ female voters nearly 5–1, gave the film an average rating of 3.6 out of 10, compared with an average 7.7 out of 10 score by women, pushing the total rating down to 4.1 out of 10. (It has since climbed to 5.4 out of 10.) Separately, Hickey found that IMDb’s male users were driving down the scores of television shows aimed at female audiences; men gave Sex and the City an average score of 5.8 out of 10, for example, versus 8.1 by women. IMDb’s male users, Hickey found, were going out of their way to downvote shows directed at women. “Among shows with 10,000 ratings or more,” he wrote, “the average rating of the top-100 male-skewing shows was 8.2, while the average rating of the top-100 female shows was 7.4.”

Sometimes, that user-directed ugliness was especially stark. I Am Not Your Negro, a documentary based on an unfinished James Baldwin manuscript that looks at the history of racism in the United States and that is in contention for an Oscar this weekend, has become a particular target for trolls. Rotten Tomatoes’ aggregate of critical reviews from major outlets has the film at a remarkable 98 percent positive, and that site’s users put it at 84 percent. Yet on IMDb, users have given it an average rating of just 6.6 out of 10. “Given that the film was only playing on a few dozen screens on that initial Friday [that it was released], it seems unlikely many of those who derided the film had actually seen it, although they might have watched a trailer,” NBC’s Matthew Carey wrote in a post last week questioning whether trolls are trying to tear the film down.

It appears that cases like the user response to I Am Not Your Negro were at least part of IMDb’s motivation in shuttering its message boards. On its support forum, which continues to serve as the website’s customer service portal, a post appeared Sunday titled, “IMDb should not allow racist trolling to skew rating or the conversation and review of a film.” “When I looked to see the reviews by low raters,” the author wrote, “I see white supremacists rants, without reference to the film in any substantive way, telling black people to ‘go back to Africa’, etc. I don’t think this should be allowed.”

Within hours, the user received a public response from no less a source than Needham, whose reply was brief: “We agree and the IMDb boards will be closing tomorrow,” he wrote, directing the author to the statement on the closure. He then marked the matter as Solved.

In Needham’s announcement of the message boards’ closure (which has attracted hundreds of responses), he argued that the forum had been supplanted by other means of user interaction. “Increasingly, IMDb customers have migrated to IMDb’s social media accounts as the primary place they choose to post comments and communicate with IMDb’s editors and one another,” he wrote.

This is true — to a point. But IMDb, like many commenting platforms, was light on moderation, encouraging members to use a one-way “ignore” function to combat offending users. On the now-deleted help page, the site recommended quietly disengaging. “When you fight with a troll, he wins. When you reason with a troll, he wins. Any time that you give a troll attention, he gets exactly what he wants. The best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.”

IMDb joins a handful of other sites that have cracked down on trolls in recent months. In late November, Reddit announced it would begin warning and banning some posters from r/The_Donald, a popular pro–Donald Trump subreddit, and would prevent posts from r/The_Donald from being added to a central hub on the site. Last week, the site went further, adding r/The_Donald to a small group of subreddits that are prevented from appearing on the homepage for most users. Meanwhile, Twitter introduced what is effectively a time-out system for users reported for abuse. Viceditched its comment section in December; NPR did so in August, following the lead of Reuters, Mic, and many others.

By now, decisions to scrap comment sections are a sort of tic-tac-toe. Used by a small fraction of users: check. Not representative of the kind of community we want to be: check. A den of ugliness and abuse in need of resource-draining policing: check.

Still, throwing in the towel feels especially poignant for a site that dates to the inception of the social internet. Trolling on IMDb isn’t a new phenomenon: In a 2006 profile in The Washington Post, Kevin Smith complained about the nastiness he had encountered on the site’s message board, while The New York Times mentioned a politically charged debate over The Kingdom the following year. It’s clear, though, that the trolling had hardened into something else — something systematic.

It’s hard to mistake the recent spate of comment-section closures as anything but recognition that the particular toxicity that has swept over social media seems now to be more than just an election-year phenomenon. Even in the dusty library of an online movie database, the bad of no-holds-barred chatter emphatically outweighs the good.

Sours: https://www.theringer.com/2017/2/21/16043918/imdb-message-board-shuts-down-80b632d6ab79


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